Comments on: Pick-up (bullshit) artists. http://bgeiger.net/blog/2009/08/pick-up-bullshit-artists Fri, 20 Aug 2010 18:44:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Jefrir http://bgeiger.net/blog/2009/08/pick-up-bullshit-artists/comment-page-1#comment-218 Jefrir Sun, 04 Jul 2010 15:00:09 +0000 http://bgeiger.net/blog/?p=147#comment-218 "if i see myself as the most interesting/alpha/high value person in a small group of people, i can get into this state of mind more easily." Whereas I find someone who thinks they're the best person in the room to be a massive turn-off, so you wouldn't be doing yourself any favours. A healthy sense of self-esteem is good. Thinking you're more interesting than you are, or especially, that you're more interesting than the person you're talking to, is bad “if i see myself as the most interesting/alpha/high value person in a small group of people, i can get into this state of mind more easily.”

Whereas I find someone who thinks they’re the best person in the room to be a massive turn-off, so you wouldn’t be doing yourself any favours. A healthy sense of self-esteem is good. Thinking you’re more interesting than you are, or especially, that you’re more interesting than the person you’re talking to, is bad

]]> By: static http://bgeiger.net/blog/2009/08/pick-up-bullshit-artists/comment-page-1#comment-213 static Mon, 22 Feb 2010 03:50:30 +0000 http://bgeiger.net/blog/?p=147#comment-213 i'm a keyboard jockey but i think i know a few things. perhaps this will be relevant. girls want to be emotionally stimulated. but in a fun way. a lot of asshole behavior comes off as fun and exciting to them if you're being a fun upbeat alpha guy while you do it. i think a lot of guys get confused here because we communicate in a relatively logical way. we communicate to transfer ideas and concepts. but girls communicate to transfer feelings. so, logically, while telling a girl that she's a dork is an asshole thing to say on the surface, emotionally, if you're smiling and being a FUN GUY when you say it, she feels it as being playful and fun. it seems that the trick is to get in the FUN ZONE. to get in "state". to be talkative. it's a more free, alpha state of mind. everyone has this state of mind built into them. but our minds don't want us to have access to it because we aren't subconsciously comfortable in an alpha role. you said that your conscience threatens to shut you down / "social anxiety". this may be what i'm talking about. i find that it's easier for me to get into this state of mind when i'm exhausted because i stop caring what people think of me. also, if i see myself as the most interesting/alpha/high value person in a small group of people, i can get into this state of mind more easily. at that point, it's easier to talk to girls on their wavelength.. you can also do things consciously with your vocal tonality and pronunciation to say things in a FUN way. "noooOh, silly!!1!", as opposed to "no. silly." i’m a keyboard jockey but i think i know a few things. perhaps this will be relevant.

girls want to be emotionally stimulated. but in a fun way. a lot of asshole behavior comes off as fun and exciting to them if you’re being a fun upbeat alpha guy while you do it.

i think a lot of guys get confused here because we communicate in a relatively logical way. we communicate to transfer ideas and concepts. but girls communicate to transfer feelings. so, logically, while telling a girl that she’s a dork is an asshole thing to say on the surface, emotionally, if you’re smiling and being a FUN GUY when you say it, she feels it as being playful and fun.

it seems that the trick is to get in the FUN ZONE. to get in “state”. to be talkative. it’s a more free, alpha state of mind. everyone has this state of mind built into them. but our minds don’t want us to have access to it because we aren’t subconsciously comfortable in an alpha role. you said that your conscience threatens to shut you down / “social anxiety”. this may be what i’m talking about. i find that it’s easier for me to get into this state of mind when i’m exhausted because i stop caring what people think of me. also, if i see myself as the most interesting/alpha/high value person in a small group of people, i can get into this state of mind more easily.

at that point, it’s easier to talk to girls on their wavelength.. you can also do things consciously with your vocal tonality and pronunciation to say things in a FUN way. “noooOh, silly!!1!”, as opposed to “no. silly.”

]]> By: AFC 4Real http://bgeiger.net/blog/2009/08/pick-up-bullshit-artists/comment-page-1#comment-195 AFC 4Real Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:13:54 +0000 http://bgeiger.net/blog/?p=147#comment-195 I have recently been looking at the PUA stuff as I am the poster child for nice-guy-ness. I think it can all be boiled down to a 4 step process: introduce/initiate, escalate, close, repeat. How far on the asshole-meter this reaches depends on the definition of escalate and close. If you want to still be "nice" and "good", you can simply escalate to friendship with the hope for more and close with a phone number rather than escalating to a one-night-stand and closing with a used condom. But I do agree that escalating has to be further than friendship and that has to be understood very quickly. Otherwise, your iPhone is filled with girls' numbers that can only be used to give "the male perspective" for all the other lovers they have. I'm in that trap now and can't seem to get out of it because I'm still stuck in the idea that escalating too far too quickly makes me an asshole. Oh well. I have recently been looking at the PUA stuff as I am the poster child for nice-guy-ness. I think it can all be boiled down to a 4 step process: introduce/initiate, escalate, close, repeat. How far on the asshole-meter this reaches depends on the definition of escalate and close. If you want to still be “nice” and “good”, you can simply escalate to friendship with the hope for more and close with a phone number rather than escalating to a one-night-stand and closing with a used condom. But I do agree that escalating has to be further than friendship and that has to be understood very quickly. Otherwise, your iPhone is filled with girls’ numbers that can only be used to give “the male perspective” for all the other lovers they have. I’m in that trap now and can’t seem to get out of it because I’m still stuck in the idea that escalating too far too quickly makes me an asshole. Oh well.

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